New Danish license plates?

It means nothing at all

You can buy a new numberplate with a EU flag on it or without it - its up to you to decide.

The ones with the flag on starts again all over from the start of the alfabet because Denmark is running out of letters...

The partly yellow/white is difficult to explain (even the danes really dont understand it...) but it means that the vehicle havent paid full tax and therefor can not be driven with anyone at the backseat (thats why it has no backseat!).

And NO: you can't have a Corvette on these taxfree plates because the car needs to have a minimum of 50% space for luggage

Hi Gert!

Thats the crazy danish tax system!

Yellow plates indicates yhat no tax has been paid, and are only allowed to be used in a compoany - the black/yellow ones are allowed to be used by private because there have been paid some TAX. White plates indicates that full tax has been paid (aprox. twice the price of the car itself!)

enjoy you stay here - and have a nice trip back to Holland!

Gert

If you are interested in numberplates please visit http://www.nrpl.dk

here you can see all the series, also vintage. If you observe a black plate with white letters, its a plate originally from the car from before 1974. theese plates can not yet be purchased to vintage cars, but next year or two they can be ordered for cars with first registration between 1958 and (april) 1974.

Cars older than may 1958 can get old plates - looks great...

enjoy your stay!

Hej Gert - er det ikke korrekt at du godt kan læse dansk?! Ellers er det næste jo dybt tåbeligt.....

Bare for at føje lidt ekstra på denne tråd. Bemærk at skrifttypen på de danske nummerplader også er blevet ændret.

Rygtet vil vide at det er på grund af at nummerpladerne ikke længere laves af indsatte i danske fængsler, men nu er flyttet til et regulært firma. De har bare ikke ret til at benytte den gamle skrifttype.....

Men som sagt - det er bare et rygte....

Henrik

grunden til skrifttypeskift er alene fordi der skal være plads til EU-mærket i venstre side. nummerpladerne bliver nu produceret i udlandet, kan ikke huske hvor. det handlede om EU-udbud som et eller andet firma vandt. Regeringen bekendtgjorde i sin tid, at der ikke skal tjenes på nummerpladerne, men det er lidt morsomt at produktionen koster en brøkdel af det skat skal have for dem.

Jens and Gert: Thanks for your anwers.

Yes Henrik, I can read Danish. Not everything all the time. But things I don't understand right away, I simply look up. It's just a way to teach yourself an new language.

About the license-plates: Holland had the same problem with running out of letters a long time ago. The solution was quite simple: shift the position of the letters.

Like this:

DB-12-34

12-34-DB

12-DB-34

Then we got 4 letters, like this:

DB-FG-12

12-DB-FG

DB-12-FG

Recently, we shifted to 3 letters, like this:

1-DBG-23

Since Denmark has 99.999 cars per letter-combination I am surprised you have already ran out of letters. I figure from AA to ZZ means 676 (26 x 26) combinations. Of you multiply that amount by 99.999, this would mean there are already more than 67.599.324 cars in Denmark.

That's hard to believe...

Even if some letter-combinations were left out for obvious reasons (SS and SD are not allowed in Holland, I can imagine that's the same in Denmark), your system still has space for approximately 65 millions cars. So how comes Denmark ran out of letters?

Kind Regards,

Gert (back home in Holland)

Simpelt, masser af bogstavskombinationerne blev udeladt:

http://nrpl.dk/comb-1966.php

For almindelige personbilsnummerplader bruger man kun fra 20000 til 59999

http://nrpl.dk/serie-1966-pv-2.php

Andre plader han andre tælrækker:

http://nrpl.dk/serie-index.php

Klaus

Thanks Klaus, this is really helpful!

I will print my own license plates in 1:87 and now I am sure I won't make

stupid errors. Thanks a lot!

Kind Regards,

Gert

Of course - great idea!

I will remember that for my own railway

regards

Hallo Gert,

Ja het Deense nummerplatensysteem is net zo verknipt als het Nederlandse.

Oorzaak, ook hier kennen ze privégebruik van de bedrijfsauto!

De rest doe ik even in het engels, dat is wel zo netjes tegenover de anderen.

Hey andre i sporskiftet uskyld min hilsen på Hollandsk til Gert, jeg fortsætter på Engels så alle kan forstå DK-NL forskel-ligehed.

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In NL private plates are yellow with black lettering, in DK white with black lettering and red border. In NL always, in DK still at choice at the left side the blue EU-ribbon.

In NL company plates are the same like private plates, the only have other number-letter combinations. In DK company plates are yellow with black lettering and black border. In NL always, in DK still at choice at the left side the blue EU-ribbon.

In NL it is (still) allowed to privatly drive a company platet car. At the moment still with backseats, but only if there remains enough 'company' space in the back. You cannot see this in the plates other than in the letter-numbercombination, if you know these. This licence komes with extra kosts compared to company cars, but is an economic choise to som compared to private plates.

In DK it is allowed to privatly drive a company platet car, in this case you get 'papegøjeplader' (parrot plates) in the old days the plates where the same as company plates, new plates are left yellow and right white. Also with or without the EU-ribbon.

Specialy the plates with EU-ribbon are parot plates showing bleu, yellow and white.

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I miself had a tough choice coming from Holland, driving privately a company licenced car. In NL it was easy and economic to drive this car, i could drive with 5 persons and almost 2 meter bagage room for a nice price. Moving to Danmark put us the question: white plates or yellow? For 25.000 DKK I could keep the seats and drive with white plates. For only 8.000 DKK I should remove the back seat, and put in a protection screen at the chauffers seat, and get company plates. I got totaly yellow once because my car is from 1995. All this for a car i already owned (7 years).

Because my partner and I don't have any kids it was an easy way to save 17.000 DKK for moving to DK. We moved to DK because we like it here, not because of economics.

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This shows that we are a long way from 'one europe' on one side, and not veryy different at all on the other. This is maybe the reason that Gert choose a Danish theme for his modell hobby...

Have a great 2010, with a multitude of variation.

Gert, see you next time in Denmark (maybe)

Hi Henk, nice to hear from you again!

I know about economics and taxes in Denmark. Gert Frikke (also on this forum) told me about it when we visited Denmark in november and I heard stories about the Danish tax system already from one of my friends who also moved from Holland to Denmark.

Especially cars are extremely expensive in Denmark. but than again houses are more afordable in Demark. I guess most of you up there in Denmark would be flabergasted when you took notice of the prices we pay for houses.

Well, I'm going off topic now. The reason I'm planning a Danish model railroad is because I simply love Denmark. Ever since I visited your country for the first time in 1998, I have been buying Danish models.

First in small amount, as a kind of souvenirs and later on with the idea to really start building a Danish lay out. My only restriction is that I only buy diesel locs, no electric locs.

Kind Regards,

Gert

Hi Gert,

This I really understand (also taking available space into consideration), but please also buy some steamers. I think the best point of time - taking the availability of materiel into consideration and at the same time not driving with everything from epoke I-VI - is a sunny summerday in the late fifties - or if you already have bought a MZ in the maroon livery - even 10 years later.

Best regards

Lars

Kunne du måske lokkes til at uploade dem så der andre der kunne have glæde af dem da jeg tror det vil glæde mange:)

Hi Mads,

I have not made the license plates yet, but I will be more than happy to share them. So I will upload the drawings when they are ready!

Kind Regards,

Gert

Which reminds me of this link, which is very useful if you have german cars on your layout

http://www.bronneim.de/interaktiv/kfz-kennzeichen-generator.php?templ=Eu...

What a brillant idea!

Best regards

Lars

Tænkte jeg det ikke nok:] De hollandske menesker er så hjælpsomme:) Jeg venter i spænding;)

Jeg har svært ved at se hvad denne diskussion omkring nummerplader til biler har at gøre i dette forum?

And for our Dutch friends here and in Holland:

I cannot understand why this thread shall be located in the forum "dansk i model"?

Mvh/regards

Jan

Det er nok fordi der er nogle der har modelbiler på deres anlæg og gerne vil have at de ser korrekte ud .

Lars

"Litra P" skrev:

Det er nok fordi der er nogle der har modelbiler på deres anlæg og gerne vil have at de ser korrekte ud .

Exactly! Yet if you have a suggestion for a more appropriate subforum of Sporskiftet, I'd be more than happy to put my next modelcar-related question there.

Kind regards,

Gert

Jeg har svært ved at se et problem i det?

Hvis den bare var blevet lagt i GENERELT ville der jo også havde været bøvl?

Sig os hvor du ville have haft den!

Generelt eller off-topic, så svært kan det vel ikke være

Nej - overskriften hedder "Dansk i Model". I mine øjne inkluderer det også modelbilerne og deres bemaling/udstyr/udformning. Som du kan se ovenfor er de fleste her af samme mening.

Og hvis ikke du synes det hører hjemme her kan du jo bare springe teksten over.

Lars

PS Tak for dine mange konstruktive bidrag til dette forum.

Selv tak

I've been doing some artwork today. Please have a look at the uploaded pdf-file. I have made 6 different Danish license plates. Plase note that I have not yet used the proper fonts.

I did sent an e-mail message to the webmaster of http://www.nrpl.dk, but have not yet received an answer. If any of you knows the exact fonts that were used and are now used, please let me know. As soon as I have the poper fonts on my PC, I will produce a set of license plates in both H0- and O-scale in pdf-format. As a matter of fact I will make license plate numbers on request!

Kind Regards,

Gert

Den rette font er nok svær at få fat i, da den er specielt designet til nummerpladerne.

Læs:

http://nrpl.dk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=120&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

"Skrifttype 1976 er designet af Naur Klint. Skrifttype 2008 er designet af 11design. Begge skrifttyper er designet eksklusivt til danske nummerplader."

Ovenstående er sikkert også grunden til at nrpl.dk bruger små billeder til at bygge de nummerplader der er vist på siden, frem for ren skrift.

Klaus

Thanks for your quick reply Klaus!

I think I will have to look for fonts that more or less look like the special designed fonts. After all the license plates will only be about 1,5 mm high, so you will have to have very good eyes to spot the possible differences.

As soon as I have found similar fonts, I will upload another file.

Kind Regards,

Gert

Ja, det er nok ikke muligt at finde den (har prøvet uden resultat). Hvis man har megen tid kan man imidlertid skabe skriften ved hjælp af dette (eller et lignende) program.

http://rbytes.net/soft/fontcreator-home-edition-uebersicht/

Med dette program er det muligt at scanne bmp-filer ind og på dette grundlag kan de enkelte tal og bogstaver designes. At genskabe hele skriften er nok en al for tidskrævende proces.

Reglerne for brug af skriften kan man læse her:

http://nrpl.dk/1976-dim.php

Hilsen

Lars

Thanks Lars. I work with Adobe Illustrator. Probably the best thing to do is get good pictures of Danish license plates and the try to draw all the letters and marks myself.

Kind Regards,

Gert

Hvis du kigger på de billeder der er brugt på nrpl.dk, og viser det enkelte billede, finder du ud af at de ligger i en undermappe kaldet /img/ og derunder hedder det enkelte tal/bogstav årstallet for indførelsen og så hvilket bogstav /tal det nu er

Eksempelvis

http://nrpl.dk/img/76a-2.JPG

Altså et total i karakterene fra 1976, gæt selv, hvad et tretal hedder.....

Klaus

Fedt - GG (godt googlet!)

Gert is now able to produce a TTF-file for Windows - please proceed

Det her ender snart i det rene Anders And...

http://www.donald.org/barks/font/

Best regards

Lars

Don't worry, I will!

Yet it will take some time. I hope to make all of you happy sometime in January 2010.

Kind Regards,

Gert